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Russia attacking NATO would give a significant chunk of the globe the green light to obliterate Putin.
This is likely the route to ending the war on Ukraine with the lowest loss of human life.
So… Go on Putin, try it.
That would actually be 4d chess. Encourage Russia to invade and let Poland crush it
The problem with this is that Russia will rather take whole world down with it than admit defeat. They don’t obey the rules (and laws) of war.
Anymore. The Russians themselves did for a time. Case in point the times a russian actively prevented WW3 or rather a nuclear exchange.
That’s a fairy tale - just another piece of Russian propaganda you seem to be unaware of.
So you are telling me Arkhipov and Petrov where just propaganda figures to promote the “good will” of the soviet union?
You can do that all day long, without hard facts I will not believe you, because both cases have been documented extensively and thoroughly. Ukrainian propaganda is doing a bad job, grasping at straws these days. I’m still 100% behind Ukraine, but negating everything and trying to paint anyone who isn’t in line as the bad guy is straight out of the soviet and russian handbooks.
Painting Russia as the rational side who actually wants peace and the evil West as the warmongers (not just for this war) is a fairy tale and one of the main taking points of Russian propaganda. I’m not saying you’re on their side but if you parrot them without putting it into perspective, you’re doing their bidding.
I’d never paint Russia as the rational side - which is why the distinction between Russia and the Soviet Union AND the distinction between individuals is important, imho.
My only hope with a second Trump term is that when he inevitably drags the US out of NATO, the other member states invest more heavily into their military budgets, rally to support each other and make it a true defensive pact.
NATO would definitely feel the hit of losing US support, but I don’t think this will tip the scales in Ukraine. If the other states chip in, I think they’ll hold out.
It’s more hilarious that the Republican Party have managed to dupe their own stereotypically patriotic supporters into allowing them to sell out to Russia. Aren’t they forgetting the decades of anti-Commie propaganda being fed to them?
Ideally NATO would fall apart and cap the member states’ potential to commit their imperialism in the middle east.
And modern capitalist Russia tries its best to put out anti-communist propaganda for its population too btw. The current governments of the US and Russia aren’t too different in that sense; the difference is that Russians have lived under Socialism and experienced the massively decreased quality of life after the country turned capitalist so the propaganda doesn’t quite work (with rising support for the USSR in recent years even)
The reason Trump wants to ally with Russia is likely to sabotage China, the same way they sabotaged the USSR and contributed to its illegal dissolution by allying with China against them in the Cold War.
Yeah it doesn’t seem like you should vote for this guy.
Had he just said that NATO countries are failing their duty as a member as they’re not paying the agreed amount of money for the alliance he would actually sound sane. Most Europeans agree to that. The governments have been slacking for years, and now there is a war. Again.
Instead he talks like a lunatic. Fuck that guy.
