• PugJesus@lemmy.worldOP
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    3 days ago

    Welcome to democracy - where the ignorance and malice of the politically uneducated majority force the politically educated minority to make shitty and immoral choices.

    It’s better than the alternative, of course - the ignorance and malice of a politically uneducated minority forcing everyone else to support one shitty and immoral choice.

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      2 days ago

      This isn’t democracy. If ending genocide was actually a choice on the ballot instead of two ghouls who both support genocide, I bet most would vote to end genocide. What we actually have is a representative system where we’re told that we vote in politicians who represent us, but in reality they represent the plutocracy and the plutocracy wants genocide.

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          2 days ago

          Thinking most people would be against genocide is spreading misinformation?

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                  You didn’t look at your own poll last time and you didn’t look at it this time either. Here, let me point it out again, this time with a screenshot:

                  Oh, would you look at that, only right-wing conservatives and republicans edge out in favor of giving aid to israel’s campaign of genocide. For some reason you think we should be catering to republican fascists. Are you sure you’re not the one who is the fascist? You love using projection like they do and you insist that “most Americans” support fascist policies.

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                    2 days ago

                    It’s amazing that you post the screenshot and STILL don’t read it correctly. Here, let me remind you of what you originally said:

                    If ending genocide was actually a choice on the ballot instead of two ghouls who both support genocide, I bet most would vote to end genocide.

                    Thinking most people would be against genocide is spreading misinformation?

                    But fascists aren’t well-known for their stunning memory of what they said in the past ten minutes either, so that’s not a surprise.

                    Of course, the fact that you explicitly advocate for voting for a genocide of American minorities makes this position, in context, utterly unsurprising.

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                  In what universe isn’t disapproval of Israels actions opposition to genocide?? That’s literally what they’re doing that people disapprove of!

                  At most, people want to continue aid to Israel in SPITE of disapproving of the genocide.

                  Some people still incorrectly think that Israel isn’t inherently a genocidal apartheid state, so they want to support them in general, but want the genocide to stop.

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                    2 days ago

                    At most, people want to continue aid to Israel in SPITE of disapproving of the genocide.

                    Okay, let me remind you of what started this little conversation. The other guy saying

                    I bet most would vote to end genocide

                    So you wanna explain how

                    At most, people want to continue aid to Israel in SPITE of disapproving of the genocide.

                    Groks with that?

    • bungalowtill@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      2 days ago

      so what are you saying? the majority of US voters forced the government to support the Gaza genocide?

      and if not? are we already living the alternative?

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        Surprisingly, yes. as AIPAC said, they got a 100% ousting of all candidates who were “anti-Israel”(translated to normal speak: against slaughtering Palestinians because Israel embraced the 14 words), this is a very clear democratic mandate to support the slaughter of innocents, so the land can be used for more settlements.

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          That just proves how easily swayed the public is by money. Which makes sense, with money, you can drown out opposing arguments and squash the truth. It’s not really a democracy as long as the Citizens United ruling stands. It’s a plutocracy.

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            AIPAC is a very public Zionist lobbying group working on behalf of the most radical elements of the Israeli state. they were founded to help smooth out Israeli US relations after the Qibya massacre in 1953.