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An idling gas engine may be annoyingly loud, but that’s the price you pay for having WAY less torque available at a standstill.

    • alphafalcon@feddit.de
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      13 days ago

      My EV sits in the driveway and soaks up excess production from my PV setup.
      My main problem is it’s never really empty enough.

      If I’m on the road, a high voltage DC charger gets me from 10% to 50% in about 10 minutes. Barely enough time for a coffee and a leak, then it’s another 2 hours of driving. Rinse, repeat.

      Sure, you can’t barrel down the Autobahn for 10 hours straight without stopping but who wants that?

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        13 days ago

        I make a 9-10 hour drive to see my family multiple times a year. I normally stop twice to get gas and use the bathroom, and that’s it. Sounds like you’d be adding most of an hour to my travel time each way. I’ve tried stopping longer and grabbing food, it’s not worth it for me.

        With that said, I drive 25-40 miles a day the other 360+ days of the year, so it’d really make much more sense for me to have a short range EV and rent something for travel when I have too much luggage to fly.

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              12 days ago

              That’s an infrastructure problem you can help solve and regardless going on long trips for most people is 100% optional.

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            13 days ago

            That would become a 15+ hour trip then…

            Edit: On further investigation, it’s also not significantly cheaper than flying, and is much more expensive than fuel for driving.

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            13 days ago

            I’m glad you think I can afford to triple my rent, but that’s not happening.

            Edit: If you mean the road trip scenario, my family works in various different industries, and the opportunities are better in different cities. That’s also not happening.

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      13 days ago

      Why on earth do you get down votes? This is the truth. Downvoters just straw man argue pointing out that ‘just charge your car at home’, which isn’t the matter of discussion. There isn’t even a discussion to be had - it is faster to refuel a car than recharge. Might this matter to you? Maybe, maybe not.

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        13 days ago

        If the car is recharged at home, you may never need to stop to add gas. Electric is the future bro, get over your hangups.

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          13 days ago

          Charging the car at home is for middle class people and above, generally speaking. Not everyone gets to park their car next to an outlet.

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            12 days ago

            You can plug into the standard 120V outlet at home. You don’t require the high amp charging and the installment costs associated

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        13 days ago

        And then wait an hour to get acceptable charge levels for range. Filling up at a gas station is much faster.

        This is not to say electric vehicles aren’t a good idea, the charge rate and convenience while traveling are issues we need to improve on.

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          13 days ago

          I hear this complaint a lot about charging times, but for 99.99% of people they are never in a single day going to drive beyond their cars range, meaning even a standard level 1 slow charger over night at home can manage their entire car usage.

          It’s only people doing long distance road trips that have to worry, and that’s by far a minimum. Instead of boosting gas cars for that we could be looking at investing in rail so people don’t have to make the longer trips in a car anyway.

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            13 days ago

            And for about 50% of Americans, they don’t have a place to plug in an electric car at night. It’s only people above a certain level of wealth who have the luxury of their own parking space with a charger.

            For the rest of us, we must take time out of our day to sit in a grocery store parking lot while the car charges.

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              12 days ago

              EVs generally have adapters that allow you to plug into a standard home outlet, it’s just significantly slower to charge to full due to the lower amperages. And even if you only have 1 plug in your garage, it’s not hard or expensive to add more.

              The only real hurdle for that is if you rent a house and aren’t allowed to make those easy changes

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            13 days ago

            Not only that, people going on those long trips are going to be looking for something to eat in a similar time frame that their EV takes to fully discharge. It takes EVs about 15-20 minutes to get from 0-80% charge. That’s less time than it takes to sit down and eat at a restaurant

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              13 days ago

              I rarely go inside restaurants to eat on a long trip. I grab a burger and wolf it down and go again. I eat the fries while I’m driving and they’re gone in an instant, and i’m still going.

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      13 days ago

      If you’re driving more than 300miles a day you’re just admitting your a much larger slice of the shitty pie.

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        13 days ago

        Fuck you, I drive so other people don’t have to.

        By being eager to gauge people’s location in “the shitty pie”, you’re just admitting your (sic) a much large slice of the shitty pie

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          12 days ago

          That just isn’t true, you just said you could ride a train. You choose not to, that’s a big difference.

          But saying rail is significantly slower you narrow your nationality to maybe 5 major nations one happens to be significantly more represented on Lemmy. The “need” to drive safe over reaction to the guess means I’m almost certainly correct. Am I not?

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              12 days ago

              An optional “profession” that steals money from qualified taxis and is also super abusive towards its employees. That’s not an excuse, that’s an explanation an kinda of a bad one at that.

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                11 days ago

                An optional “profession” that steals money from qualified taxis

                It’s not stealing if it doesn’t take it out of their wallet. Maybe the issue is instead the expensive restrictions on becoming a taxi driver? Or the virtual monopoly many taxi companies have. Or just that almost always a taxi is a worse experience.

                • Madison420@lemmy.world
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                  11 days ago

                  That’s literally what it does. Taxis didn’t have monopoly, they have a licensed job specifically because unlicensed taxis were dangerous and people at the time were getting shanghaied.

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                    10 days ago

                    Did Spotify steal from radio?

                    they have a licensed job specifically because unlicensed taxis were dangerous and people at the time were getting shanghaied.

                    Do you have any source for that happening significantly more frequently with Ubers?