Yep, double shitty. Makes me want to start sailing. 🏴‍☠️

Best buy was the culprit… I feel like I’ve generally had good luck with open box stuff otherwise though.

You know, previous to the current generation of consoles, I thought FOR SURE that back-paddles/buttons would become the next standardized iteration. Controller innovation over the last TWO generations I’d argue, has been really lacking in my opinion.

Patience, I guess. I’ve been waiting for literal fucking years at this point. A few more won’t hurt I suppose.

The Ara definitely seemed like a good thing, for repairability. I’m of the ‘fuck anything google’ mindset though.

The ‘framework’ laptop also comes to mind.

Looks like KK3 Max got pushed back a bit, or it just released for preorder from the 5th. Goddamn preorders. NO. I’ll wait for the reviews, thanks.

#frustrated

New developments:

So, I actually did order a open box elite series 2 controller but ended up having to exchange it because there was substantial stick drift on both sticks. Super frustrating that this wasn’t caught, or the sellers don’t care enough about the quality control…

The “core” version is a little cheaper, but nobody has the paddles, which is pretty much the main reason I want one of these controllers…

There is sadly not many competitors available right now either. The Razer model is 250$!? WAY more than I want to spend…

The Guilikit one looks promising, but still have another couple of weeks before it actually releases and then would have to wait on shipping from China, which I hate.

You would think that in 2024 there would be more viable alternatives for professional level no-compromise controllers with good quality for an affordable price.

Rant over.

Nice!

The prohibitive price of the xbox elite controllers is definitely a big detractor. They have the ‘core’ model now, for 130 apparently, but doesn’t even include back paddles

I’m curious about what they run used though

Let us know what you think, if you want to 😁

Really?

Not that you have to give it another try or anything, but I definitely didn’t get it right away either. However, I think that it is one of those easy to learn hard to master type of mechanics that is worth the practice it takes to get better at it.

Personally, I found the mechanics very fun and I think the game does a fantastic job of introducing new additions to the base mechanics, pretty much throughout the entirety of the game.

For instance, when you first start out, you only have a swing, and this is to allow you to familiarize yourself with the momentum only, which sort of feels odd/different at first to most games (the fact that there is no way to jump (or another similar behavior) at the end of your swing is kind of different than what is typical for the genre I’d say). That being said, you get a swing boost mechanic to add on to this skill pretty early on which sort of fixes that deficit (and makes total sense functionality wise). The intentional design and slow introduction to new concepts is brilliantly done. (Every time you get a new mechanic the game gives you a zone to play through it in the form of a memory (read, tutorial))

Towards the end of the game, the traversal capabilities are quite masterful. You get a retracting capability that is really amazing too.

I’d recommend to stick with it, if you’re up for it.

Called it. 🤣

Haven’t seen a rick roll in a while. Someone else click on it first. Lol

There needs to be a post about ‘what will be the next great exodus’ so we can prepare for that too. 😁

It’s definitely an emotional game, but a good one though. I’m sure this game would be badass on steam deck or something similar. But it’s worth it to play it on PC too though I’d say.

Ah, sorry I misread that 😅

It is, and of course!

Good controllers, pretty comfortable (if I remember correctly), and good battery life I’ve heard.

I’d really prefer to order directly from the manufacturer whenever I can. Mainly because I prefer not to use Amazon anymore…

Anyway, that controller looks fantastic! I may be looking at that one as a serious contender for the next upgrade, thank you for sharing. I really like the fact that the paddles are similar looking to the xbox pro controller ones. Those seem like really good quality, form, fit, and function.

The switches, on the razr controller, are so good (in my opinion) that I really am not sure if I could go back. Lol. I’ve had other people not get it though, when I tried to show them how amazing they are… They just commented that they are noisy compared to normal buttons. Totally missed the point.

I’d be super interested to see a review of the KK3 Max (mandatory eyeroll of solidarity).

I really dislike the xbox gamebar. There are workarounds though. My currently preferred method is to disable the xbox gamebar, and then use joytokey to setup a hotkey for screenshots. I have steam setup to use (F12) as my hotkey to save uncompressed copies in a folder that I use for my background images on my desktop. :)

Thanks for the good convo, and recommendation!

^asking the important questions!

More power to you, I like the fancy controllers though :)

That’s a bummer that you can’t use both control types at the same time. I could definitely see the draw for the gyro (assist) aiming, that’s a neat concept. I don’t think I play enough FPS’s anymore to warrant taking the time to experiment, but it’s definitely good to know that the capability is there if I ever feel like giving it a try.

So, it rumbles, but likely not using the full haptic capabilities. Somewhat disappointing but kind of expected considering the tech isn’t standard yet.

Adaptive triggers functionality not working was kind of expected too. What can you do?

I don’t really feel like I would have much of a use for the pad, as far as the capacitive touch capabilities go. I do think the button functionality of the touchpad would be useful to me though, as I always prefer to have a hardware screenshot button if possible when I’m using a controller.

Thanks for the response.

I was always curious about the steam controller. It definitely was/is a unique and cool concept. I was never sure how well it would work, or how easily of a transition it would’ve been or what usecases would’ve been the best to use it for. I always kind of got the impression that it was probably one of those “jack of all trades, master of none” type of scenarios…

I’ve never used one though, so that’s all speculation on my part.

The fit and function of the iconic 360 controller is hard to beat, no doubt.