I thinl you would really need to adress my short answer to your comment if you take this forum or it’s members serious in any way. This also means you’d need to do it if you take your own Impetus serious…

Neccessary tactical support for the democrats should not blind us regarding their standing towards class. I guess this is what OP wants us to remember

A trait in common does not equal identity

Thats something entirely different though. Using votes to show disagreement/agreement makes sense as a tool of democratic communication. This goes for comments that contain statements.

OP describes a “jail” type of usage, where there is nothing to disagree but people downvote amyways (to feel superior maybe), wich sucks cause it reads like hate

Someone discovered the dialectic of individual and society

Was is das was machts das is das besser als hier?

I get the epic of marking climate change as a general human issue by doing stonehenge. Doing, let’s say, the wall street bulls statue or smth in London marking climate change as a capital issue would have been smarter thou

Oh god please no, please don’t escalate this war by adding the killer kind of weapons to it

Hold up. You can’t hold the lid in the same hand you hold the bottle with and still feel eligible to vote?

Looks more like a few hours of cramping body and soul followed by 3 days of emotional hangover

Ok. Thanks!

I mean so I can’t edit

Okay newsflash +++ It also happend when I click the dots on my own comments, in situations like I forgot to put blank limes betweens my text lines so it doesn’t fuck it all up

Jerboa 0.0.67 Home & community screen As soon as I press sort by icon, I get a pop up “jerboa stopped working” Android 8.0.0 on a galaxy S

Yeah maybe be should start wearing a diving mask for a few hours once a month as a nose appreciation ritual

Emtpynoseness mindfulness

Grind’em down with tiny progress

I understand and totally support that in general. I’m gonna try to explain my point of view.

In this case we don’t exactly look at policy-making. Between stating that a majority supports governmental action to ban one use plastics and actual policy is a process.

This process will “forge” the outcome. In it, several conflicting interests will meet/clash and according to the power relations between them, they will be able to enforce their respective will.

Since the power relations are, let’s say, fucked up, we are constantly seeing how profit of few overrule need of many and overall rational solutions.

Thats why the criterion “clearness” seems out of place for me at this point. Certanly, before it comes to the actual policy-making, things like the washabillity of surgical equipment will be processed. You will certanly not end up with a dirty scalpel in your body.

That’s why the scepticism of your initial comment seemed odd to me.

Don’t know if this should be seen as a given standard, or if we (“average lemmy users”) should disclaim it more often, but I don’t mean to be offensive (even though this format of short message discourse provoces a certain sass). I mean to have meaningful conversation about each others POV’s. That’s somewhat the point of lemmy, imo.

The magic about collective action is that the everyday-normal-coorperation of humans comes up with solutions for everyone. The pointer to individual decision-making in lack of collective action thus doesn’t work as a measure of how serious people are.

Also seen in episodes like

“Oh, you are wearing shoes made under unfair conditions?!”

And

“Oh there is fossil fuel in your energy consumption?”

Or

“Oh if you like democracy so much, why do you exist in a not-so-democratic-country?”

Regarding how rushed international policy-making for the environment and against profitability is not at all a problem has never been and won’t be anytime soone, that “scepticism” seems to be the product of “looking for superiority” here, imho

1. Tiniest fraction of single use plastic
2. Could be recycled or reused/resterilized
3. What flavour of skepticism are you trying to perform rn?