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  • Not in the usual sense, because you can still fully fork it, use it, modify it and redistribute it freely like a FOSS software.

    You may use or modify the software only for non-commercial purposes such as personal use for research, experiment, and testing for the benefit of public knowledge, personal study, private entertainment, hobby projects, amateur pursuits, or religious observance, all without any anticipated commercial application. You may distribute the software or provide it to others only if you do so free of charge for non-commercial purposes.

    The only limitation which make it non-free is :

    Notwithstanding the above, you may not remove or obscure any functionality in the software related to payment to the Licensor in any copy you distribute to others.

    I don’t really understand if it “prevent you” to remove and/or prevent the modification of the donation to FUTO part of the code. Should not prevent you from adding yours on top of it (As in, adding a prompt as in "If you want to do donate to the project, you can donate to the original app owner (DONATE TO FUTO) or the maintainer of the fork you are using (DONATE TO THE MAINTAINER).) And the obvious limitation of making derivative work of it, non-free of course.

    Also, they do reserve themselves rights to abrodge the license for those who abridge it, which i don’t know how legally useful it may be, for license violations compared to protecting the GPL licenses from violations for example.

    tl;dr : Seems FOSS to me, as long as :

    • You don’t try to make it non-free
    • You don’t remove the donation to FUTO part of the app

  • Actually, you were right. The issue for me is that the original k9-mail repo did also released the current beta thunderbird version (and i think, one with still the k9 branding if needed). I was trying to switch to it via that repo, and didn’t noticed the thunderbird fork listed the in the repo. There’s no changes, outside of the releases only being thunderbird branded outside of all the previous k9-mail ones. If you were on k-9 mail, and want to switch to it on Obtainium, manually install the new version and mugrate your settings to it. And once it’s all done, remove the k9-mail repo from Obtainium, and add that thunderbird one.















  • What I don’t get, but maybe because of the lack of information I have on the topic

    Exactly. That’s also the issue there. It was opt-out by default AND didn’t seemed to give enough info to the end-user about what it does, and why it would be better to keep it enabled. Most people, complain about the forced default decision without any notice, and without any appropriate info to understand if it was a decent change or not. You should only enable it, IF you understand and ablige to what it does.



  • First. Let me explain some bits about the Play Store. You are using the Google Play store, so of course, it stores the list of installed apps on your Google account. That’s fairly obvious. However, the relation with the apps generally end there. Some apps might have Google account integration (Google Games for example, or just as a login method) but not more than that. There’s also potential Google ads and Crashalytics, but it ain’t “directly” connected to your Google account (It link your device through an unique ID, which Google could correlate with your logged Google account on this device)

    That out of the way :

    • ProtonMail android app doesn’t use any of those Google stuff in it.
    • You can download their app separately of the Google Play Store. Throught their website, source-code release or F-Droid (Depending of their project. Proton isn’t consistency with those)
    • ProtonMail don’t care about your Google account, outside of importing your emails into your new Protonnail account if you choose to do so.

    Also, there is still a privacy gain, from using an email address from Protonmail, but only when you use it. It is just a better and more private e-mail provider. If you keep using a Gmail and Outlook email, than you will still issues with those emails addresses be used and read, for ads and analytics.

    Do note you can use your protonmail address on your Google and Microsoft account. Those services just tend to automatically create an email account on their respectice services by default (Gmail & Outlook) but they aren’t required.