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inevitably lead to a clash with other nations, which would not accept Russian tanks on their borders
When we don’t want foreign tanks on our borders, it’s good. When they don’t want it, it’s bad.
What was it?
Their illegitimate war of aggression on their border 850 KMs from their capital city
the negotiating third parties can’t get Russia to participate in a dialogue
Did my brain just make shit up or didn’t they nearly get to peace very early on1? Or are you saying that after Russia participated in a dialogue and Ukraine pulled out, they haven’t been willing to participate in any new talks?
Greenland is a colony.
The comment is literally filled with links.
Demoncracy is a KDE and linux user?! Cool.
Like we did appeasement in the 40s already, it was a bad strategy.
No no. It was a great strategy. Germany went to war. It was just that Germany also went to war with us, which wasn’t what we wanted.
Presumably the reasons for the initial attack still exist
Then… they failed? You’re saying that if they win, they fail. Or at least, they can’t win hard enough to actually get what they want.
You’re also assuming Russia wants territory. If Russia wanted, say, Ukraine not being admitted to NATO, and they can get a peace that ensures that, then there isn’t a reason for them to invade again. Or if Russia wanted UKR to stop shelling the eastern regions, then annexing just them might stop that, in which case, they don’t have any reason to invade again.
But why? Why would Russia invade again in a few years? What’s the logic behind that? Just “putler bad”, “russia bad”. Or is there any actual reasoning on why?
Right, Seems so. They only passed the Romanian border on the 17th.
The USSR “invaded” 16 days after the Germans. At that time, there was no Poland. The Government had been interned in Romania.
In what way is it “commonly regarded”? Where? Who? WTF are you talking about? I genuinely want to know.
Read a book. I already recommended you one.
They did, after they finally realized what they had done. Read The Cold War and Its Origins.
Indeed, actions speak louder than words. And what Britain and France did, was help Germany invade Austria, Czechoslovakia, Poland. And ensured Fascism would win in Spain. When Adolf wanted an army, a navy, an airforce, they gave it to him.
Appeasement worked. Germany went to war.
In justification of the crucifixion of Czechoslovakia at Munich it was said that [the Soviet Union] could not be trusted and that her assistance would not be worth much in any case. On the points there could be honest difference of opinion, but not about the diplomatic record. Certainly the Czech Government did not doubt [the Soviet Union]'s sincerity. At a session of the Harris Institute at the University of Chicago in August 1939 I asked President [of Czechoslovakia] Benes whether [the Soviet Union] would have supported him had he decided to fight in September 1938. He replied, without an instant’s hesitation: “There was never any doubt in my mind that [the Soviet Union] would aid us by all the ways open to her, but I did not dare to fight with [Soviet] aid alone, because I knew that the British and French Governments would make out of my country another Spain.”
Denna F. Flemming; The Cold War and Its Origins, 1917-1960; Vol 1, 1917-1950; Page 84
All the [the Soviet Union] is just replacing Russia (the author likes using Russia instead of SU), it changes the quote in no way.
Ok so, assuming the Russian army is the laughing stock of the world, then why isn’t the Ukrainian Army an even bigger laughing stock?
For a long time I heard one thing after another about how incompetent the Russian army is. For 1 and a half years, the most incompetent, laughing stock of the world, army has been… losing?
My reaction to your comment.
Here is the link: https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP80-00810A006000360009-0.pdf
Russia leaving is apparently never an option when they talk about possible solutions
Yes… it isn’t. Thats how reality works. Russia isn’t going to just up and leave. They aren’t going to have thousands of their own people killed and then just… nothing. They have goals, they want to meet them, and if not then at least get somewhat of a victory. The people in Russia aren’t going to like “oh, we just left”. I don’t fucking understand how people can say “the war ends when russia [just up and leaves]”. This isn’t fantasy land, that isn’t how it works. Russia will leave, if Ukraine negotiates a peace with them. If Russia wants land then UK has to negotiate for that not to happen.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/die-welt-publishes-peace-deal-230752941.html
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-negotiator-confirms-several-long-conversations-took-place-with-ukrainian-2022-04-22/
https://www.livemint.com/news/world/putin-publicly-shows-draft-of-peace-treaty-signed-by-russia-ukraine-in-2022-watch-11687136116863.html