Navalny, one of the leading Russian voices against Vladimir Putin before he was locked up, has now been convicted of promoting "extremism."

A Russian " " court " " on Friday issued its verdict in a new case against jailed opposition leader Alexey Navalny, convicting the politician of promoting “extremism” and extending his time in prison by 19 years, according to Russian state media and his own team.

  • Jaysyn@kbin.social
    9023·
    11 months ago

    When I found out that Navalny wasn’t against the invasion of Ukraine I stopped caring about what happened to him.

    Navalny advised Ukrainians not to deceive themselves: “Crimea will remain part of Russia and will never become part of Ukraine again in the foreseeable future”.

    He also said that when he becomes president of the Russian Federation, he will not return the semi-island to Kyiv: “Crimea is what, a sandwich with sausage to be returned here and there?”, - Navalny asked.

    Fuck Putin, fuck Navalny & fuck Russia in general.

    • iAmTheTot@kbin.social
      647·
      11 months ago

      Uh that seems like a pretty absolutist world view. You can simultaneously think that the invasion of Ukraine is terrible, and care that a Russian man is being jailed for nearly twenty years by a kangaroo court.

    • 1chemistdown@kbin.social
      454·
      11 months ago

      I’m not calling you a liar, but maybe misinformed.

      Russia’s prominent jailed opposition figure Alexei Navalny has lost an appeal against a nine-year prison term, but not before launching a scathing attack on the war in Ukraine.
      Condemning Vladimir Putin’s war as stupid, he said it was “like your courts, built entirely on lies”.

      “You will suffer a historic defeat in this stupid war that you started. It has no purpose or meaning. Why are we fighting a war?” he said.

      • DigitalTraveler42@lemmy.worldEnglish
        312·
        11 months ago

        I believe the person that you’re replying to is talking about how Navalny is inherently a Russian Nationalist and had previously expressed support for the invasion of Ukraine. Also, of course he’s going to rail against the guy who’s unjustly imprisoning him and shit all over Putin’s invasion.

      • Cleverdawny@lemm.eeEnglish
        9·
        11 months ago

        He supported the 2014 invasion, not the 2022 invasion. So he’s still garbage. He just stinks less.

      • Jaysyn@kbin.social
        139·
        11 months ago

        He’s against it now because it’s showing Russia as the alcoholic morons they are.

        • 1chemistdown@kbin.social
          81·
          11 months ago

          He said all that stuff in court right after the start of the war. Like, there are transcripts of it.

    • carbonprop@lemmy.caEnglish
      141·
      11 months ago

      I think him being concerned with the economics of a war rather than the ethics of it are telling. However here is a quote from Navalny in March. Seems like he is somewhat on a middle ground. Not sure what to think of him.

      Navalny wrote that Ukraine’s borders are “similar to Russia’s—[they were] internationally recognized and defined in 1991.” All of the areas of Ukraine that the Kremlin has supposedly “annexed” are, by right and by law, still Ukrainian, including Crimea.Mar 2, 2023

      • Jaysyn@kbin.social
        87·
        11 months ago

        And in 2014 he said:

        Navalny advised Ukrainians not to deceive themselves: “Crimea will remain part of Russia and will never become part of Ukraine again in the foreseeable future”.

        He also said that when he becomes president of the Russian Federation, he will not return the semi-island to Kyiv: “Crimea is what, a sandwich with sausage to be returned here and there?”, - Navalny asked.

        • carbonprop@lemmy.caEnglish
          5·
          11 months ago

          Difficult to feel sympathetic towards someone who suggests annexed land land can be taken at will. But also hard to deny the punishments he faces from Putin are extremely heavy handed. Russia really needs a revolution that puts in place people who actually want to serve the people and become a productive democracy.

          • anlumo@feddit.deEnglish
            5·
            11 months ago

            Revolutions never do that, because they’re started by wannabe-dictators or the military.

    • JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works
      8·
      11 months ago

      He can still be much better than Putin and support Crimea 2014. Not a good option, but a less bad one, and one that is dangerous to Putin.

    • Cleverdawny@lemm.eeEnglish
      92·
      11 months ago

      I think Navalny shouldn’t be in jail and is better than Putin. But he’s still a piece of Russian garbage.

    • NavalExplorer@sh.itjust.works
      4·
      11 months ago

      While the second quote is more telling, the first one is misleading. The only reason Ukraine has a shot at taking Crimea back is because Russia invaded.

      There was just no hope for Ukraine to retake it by force, and Russia under putin would never give it back voluntarily. Even not under Putin, the opinion would be such that this would be a difficult politically speaking. That’s what Navalny was commenting on with this quote.

    • elevenant@kbin.social
      3·
      11 months ago

      Do you have a source?
      At least a quick search on my side does not bring up anything in support of your statement.

    • rjs001@lemmygrad.ml
      English
      1·
      11 months ago

      Putin and Russia are much preferable to the scum of the western fascist Navalny

      • Cleverdawny@lemm.eeEnglish
        9·
        11 months ago

        Yeah

        He’s better than Putin in that a turd sandwich is better than a firehose full of raw sewage to the face

        But honestly, if someone put him in power, I’m 50/50 over whether he would just become the next Russian dictator

        • ikiru@lemmy.mlEnglish
          41·
          11 months ago

          50/50? I feel like there’s a 90% chance they will be and I think that’s a conservative estimate.