I’ve never seen a game in early access have dlc, only micro transactions for stuff like cosmetics and boosts. Can you give me an example of dlc on an early access game?
I guess you could define the DLC for this game as “microtransactions,” because it’s basically alternate cosmetic stuff, for equipment and housing decorations. But it’s sold under the label of “DLC,” and I don’t care to make a distinction between “microtransactions” and “DLC,” myself. One is a subset of the other.
If they have time to be making decorative extra shit, they should be spending that time working on the core game, which IS NOT FINISHED YET.
You called for a more nuanced take from the other comment thread, but you would put cosmetics and expansions under the same label in this one because you “don’t care to make a distinction” - do you see the issue?
Yes, but if you opinions are hypocritical, they’re free to point that out. It does undermine both you and this discussion.
In this case, there is nuance between cosmetics and expansion pack type dlc. One is obviously more atrocious, but if you’d engage honestly in the debate, you’d find that many people do distinguish between those things. And many people are asking you to provide examples of a game and you point to cosmetics. For many of us, that vastly changes the conversation.
It may not for you, but for us, that nuance matters. And if you’re going to jump on the badwagon in one post extolling the virtues of deeper conversation because otherwise Lemmy will become a sesspit, I dunno, maybe do some of that yourself. Be part of the solution, not the problem.
Now if you’ll excuse me, I’m gonna go see all the nuances other people are discussing.
People who want to engage in discussion don’t find a flimsy, meaningless excuse to hurl insults instead. Be less transparent before you try to troll, please.
You are right that I was unnecessarily rude. I apologize.
But I honestly do want to know why you just ignore the red misspelling squiggle, when you misspell a word. I guess I have mild OCD or something, because I simply CANNOT ignore that shit. It’s an absolutely foreign concept, for someone to just be like “nah, I’m right about that word. I know better than the actual dictionary.”
Again: I’m really, truly not trying to be rude anymore. I’m genuinely trying to understand your behavior.
I’m not them, for the record. But personally, I turned browser spellcheck off years ago; I have a lot of fantasy/scifi hobbies, and it often highlighted words that are correct but not in a dictionary, which was annoying, so I just shut it off. And also because it doesn’t really matter, from a linguistic point of view; the purpose of language is to be understood, so as long as a typo doesn’t detract from my meaning, I don’t care. It’d be different if I was writing a business email, but I’m not, I’m shitposting on reddit, so who gives a fuck?
That’s a terrible excuse not to talk to someone, I don’t think I’d be talking to most people for more than a few messages if I did that. Also not everyone has spell check in their Lemmy Interface so there might not have been a red squiggle or maybe the user assumed that because it’s a very uncommon word it might not be in the dictionary.
not everyone has spell check in their Lemmy Interface
I don’t see how that can be true, unless someone is using some sort of text-only, Unix-style browser. All modern browsers will load the rich-text-enabled text entry box, unless you go far out of your way to defeat that feature. I tested the word in the text entry box, and it came up as misspelled. You shouldn’t go to great lengths to disable a spellcheck feature, unless you have ABSOLUTELY PERFECT SPELLING.
If you do, and then you misspell some shit, that is the perfect definition of living in a glass house and chucking rocks. You deserve what’s coming to you, if you do it.
Firefox on windows doesn’t have spellcheck for me (Linux had it by default) and even if it did the interface has to specify that it want’s to use it. The phone app I use also doesn’t use a spellchecker.
Yeah that’s what I was talking about. I have no problem with this. I mean, I won’t buy any of it, but cosmetic artists and riggers aren’t the same people who do level design and shit.
If you want to show me someone selling, like, an expansion for $20 on an early access game then I’ll be incredulous with you. But that link is just typical bad business. No reason for Valve to get involved banning it or whatever
The problem is that THE. GAME. IS. NOT. FUCKING. FINISHED.
That’s the problem. Every single nanosecond spent working on DLC/microtransaction shit is being STOLEN from the people who paid into the Early Access model.
See, this is a thing called EMPATHY. And a sense of justice, outside what I stand to gain, personally.
I believe people should be called out for doing shitty things, just in general. This seems to be an entirely alien concept for a lot of folks. I find that disturbing.
Your attitude betrays your passion. This level of anger is abnormal for the subject of cosmetics in early access games, even for empathetic people. I give both time and money to charity and I’m nowhere near your level of angry and emotional over cosmetics.
Whether you’ll admit it or not, something happened to make you this emotionally sensitive to this particular issue. I’m curious what it was
True ignorance is the ability to look a contradicting reality in the face and declare your own correctness anyway. I hope one day you get better at learning from your experiences
I’ve never seen a game in early access have dlc, only micro transactions for stuff like cosmetics and boosts. Can you give me an example of dlc on an early access game?
Offhand, I know ARK released paid DLC while still in early access.
Yeah see that’s absurd
Star Citezen, right?
Do they sell expansions? Or just ships? I’m on original basic backer and don’t even know lol
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1604030/V_Rising/
I guess you could define the DLC for this game as “microtransactions,” because it’s basically alternate cosmetic stuff, for equipment and housing decorations. But it’s sold under the label of “DLC,” and I don’t care to make a distinction between “microtransactions” and “DLC,” myself. One is a subset of the other.
If they have time to be making decorative extra shit, they should be spending that time working on the core game, which IS NOT FINISHED YET.
You called for a more nuanced take from the other comment thread, but you would put cosmetics and expansions under the same label in this one because you “don’t care to make a distinction” - do you see the issue?
I don’t see any issue. I can have any opinion I want, with or without your permission.
Yes, you can have any opinion you want. And no one needs to take you seriously. Your senseless unhinged rambling speaks plenty for itself.
Fair enough. But I’m still correct, whether you like it or not.
You are insufferable. Hope you enjoy your debate.
You misspelled “correct.”
I’m right. You’re wrong. Pay attention to me and try to learn.
You’re not wrong
Yes, but if you opinions are hypocritical, they’re free to point that out. It does undermine both you and this discussion.
In this case, there is nuance between cosmetics and expansion pack type dlc. One is obviously more atrocious, but if you’d engage honestly in the debate, you’d find that many people do distinguish between those things. And many people are asking you to provide examples of a game and you point to cosmetics. For many of us, that vastly changes the conversation.
It may not for you, but for us, that nuance matters. And if you’re going to jump on the badwagon in one post extolling the virtues of deeper conversation because otherwise Lemmy will become a sesspit, I dunno, maybe do some of that yourself. Be part of the solution, not the problem.
Now if you’ll excuse me, I’m gonna go see all the nuances other people are discussing.
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Fuck off, no you weren’t.
People who want to engage in discussion don’t find a flimsy, meaningless excuse to hurl insults instead. Be less transparent before you try to troll, please.
You are right that I was unnecessarily rude. I apologize.
But I honestly do want to know why you just ignore the red misspelling squiggle, when you misspell a word. I guess I have mild OCD or something, because I simply CANNOT ignore that shit. It’s an absolutely foreign concept, for someone to just be like “nah, I’m right about that word. I know better than the actual dictionary.”
Again: I’m really, truly not trying to be rude anymore. I’m genuinely trying to understand your behavior.
I’m not them, for the record. But personally, I turned browser spellcheck off years ago; I have a lot of fantasy/scifi hobbies, and it often highlighted words that are correct but not in a dictionary, which was annoying, so I just shut it off. And also because it doesn’t really matter, from a linguistic point of view; the purpose of language is to be understood, so as long as a typo doesn’t detract from my meaning, I don’t care. It’d be different if I was writing a business email, but I’m not, I’m shitposting on reddit, so who gives a fuck?
That’s a terrible excuse not to talk to someone, I don’t think I’d be talking to most people for more than a few messages if I did that. Also not everyone has spell check in their Lemmy Interface so there might not have been a red squiggle or maybe the user assumed that because it’s a very uncommon word it might not be in the dictionary.
I don’t see how that can be true, unless someone is using some sort of text-only, Unix-style browser. All modern browsers will load the rich-text-enabled text entry box, unless you go far out of your way to defeat that feature. I tested the word in the text entry box, and it came up as misspelled. You shouldn’t go to great lengths to disable a spellcheck feature, unless you have ABSOLUTELY PERFECT SPELLING.
If you do, and then you misspell some shit, that is the perfect definition of living in a glass house and chucking rocks. You deserve what’s coming to you, if you do it.
Firefox on windows doesn’t have spellcheck for me (Linux had it by default) and even if it did the interface has to specify that it want’s to use it. The phone app I use also doesn’t use a spellchecker.
Yeah that’s what I was talking about. I have no problem with this. I mean, I won’t buy any of it, but cosmetic artists and riggers aren’t the same people who do level design and shit.
If you want to show me someone selling, like, an expansion for $20 on an early access game then I’ll be incredulous with you. But that link is just typical bad business. No reason for Valve to get involved banning it or whatever
The problem is that THE. GAME. IS. NOT. FUCKING. FINISHED.
That’s the problem. Every single nanosecond spent working on DLC/microtransaction shit is being STOLEN from the people who paid into the Early Access model.
This sounds personal. Who hurt you?
Nobody, in this specific situation.
See, this is a thing called EMPATHY. And a sense of justice, outside what I stand to gain, personally.
I believe people should be called out for doing shitty things, just in general. This seems to be an entirely alien concept for a lot of folks. I find that disturbing.
Your attitude betrays your passion. This level of anger is abnormal for the subject of cosmetics in early access games, even for empathetic people. I give both time and money to charity and I’m nowhere near your level of angry and emotional over cosmetics.
Whether you’ll admit it or not, something happened to make you this emotionally sensitive to this particular issue. I’m curious what it was
Believe what you want. I’ll have the satisfaction of being correct, either way.
True ignorance is the ability to look a contradicting reality in the face and declare your own correctness anyway. I hope one day you get better at learning from your experiences