Main use of WhatsApp is SMS replacement. Has nothing to do with threads or anything like that. It is a free equivalent of messaging which is very convenient when you need to send messages abroad. What do you use for this? e-mail? Telegram? Serious question.
But why? For video calls and simple messages what’s the difference? Both use end to end encryption. The interface is clear but WhatsApp has huge advantage in number of users.
can you really verify they use e2ee? it’s not like you can look at the source code of their client or servers, all you can do is take their word for it and there have been companies lying about having e2ee before.
plus metadata collection, sure they might not able to collect what you send but who and when you send your messages are probably collected.
not really, you can check the source code for signal’s client and server. same goes for matrix except you can even host your own matrix server. that is the difference of open source.
There is no way for you to check if they add something to or remove from the code before they compile it and put it into store from which you download to your phone. You have to trust company regardless.
Main use of WhatsApp is SMS replacement. Has nothing to do with threads or anything like that. It is a free equivalent of messaging which is very convenient when you need to send messages abroad. What do you use for this? e-mail? Telegram? Serious question.
Signal for me personally. I’ll never touch WhatsApp. If that’s what you use to communicate then we do it the old fashioned way.
But why? For video calls and simple messages what’s the difference? Both use end to end encryption. The interface is clear but WhatsApp has huge advantage in number of users.
can you really verify they use e2ee? it’s not like you can look at the source code of their client or servers, all you can do is take their word for it and there have been companies lying about having e2ee before.
plus metadata collection, sure they might not able to collect what you send but who and when you send your messages are probably collected.
But these questions are true for any app. The only one which was verified is iMessage, because of that FBI case.
not really, you can check the source code for signal’s client and server. same goes for matrix except you can even host your own matrix server. that is the difference of open source.
Are you compiling and installing compiled version yourself onto your phone?
no but i trust third party security audits and the freedom to do that. for my threat model this is fine.
it is not a matter of if i did it or not, it is a matter of if i could do that.
There is no way for you to check if they add something to or remove from the code before they compile it and put it into store from which you download to your phone. You have to trust company regardless.
I’m not the person you replied to, but I use Matrix for this, and it works very well for my purposes.