Hy,
In your opinion do you prefer Bitwarden or Proton Pass and why?
It seems proton pass have better integration with Firefox.
Good and bad?
Thanks.
Don’t combine email, password manager, or 2FA authenticator together with the same company. All 3 should be completely separate from each other.
Bitwarden has a distinct advantage for this reason alone.
KeepassXC
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I use protonpass for alias email and bitwarden for passwords.
Just got an email from proton today about their “lifetime deal” for proton pass I currently use bitwarden and Firefox relay but I’ve been debating trying to drop my Gmail account and switch everything to my proton account. Thinking it would be silly to pay Firefox $12 a year just for relay when I can get that and more from proton for the same price.
All of that to say how exactly does the email alias work and can I set a custom email subdomain to just have an alias get created whenever an email is sent to the email I give someone without me having to go manually create it?
Why not simplelogin integration in Bitwarden? The first comes as part of your assuming proton unlimited package
Been a longtime user of Bitwarden (free, and over the last year paid). It’s a straightforward/good but a bit boring UI, connects very well and easily into browser, phone etc. Works well, highly recommended, and having 2FA on paid version is awesome.
Been trying out Proton Pass for the last few days since I already pay for Proton Unlimited. It’s got a good UI and so far it’s been working well in Firefox and on my phone. It’s much better integration with Simple Login features so I like the slightly more seemless sign-up ability. It’s not 100% feature parity with Bitwarden paid though.
Bottom line - I prefer proton pass as a heavy proton user already BUT if I just wanted a standalone password manager, Bitwarden is probably better. Both are good options though, and competition is good.
(Possibly a silly question: Is there anything wrong with a boring UI? What makes a good UI not boring?)
Nothing wrong with a utilitarian boring UI/UX. It’s not going to be a determining factor but a nicer looking and feeling experience is…nicer.
Am I a boomer for still using KeepassXC synced via Dropbox?
It works but partitions can and will happen and a merge afterwards is non-trivial AFAIK.
KeepassXC + SyncThing in my case, to skip the middle man (Dropbox/Google drive)
Do you encrypt it before syncing in Dropbox? Or just raw .kdbx and password (+ key)?
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Defense in depth is my thinking
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Interesting. I assumed it did, two layers of encryption, different passcodes and ideally keys - not sure how it wouldn’t, but now I need to research it
These are my opinions, not a security expert or anything but - if your system is compromised two layers won’t make a difference. If someone gets ahold of the KDBX, two layers might slow them down but if they have the compute to crack the KDBX in the first place a second layer won’t make a difference, even if you’re using a stronger algorithm.
I can only think of two benefits.
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using two different algorithms adds a layer of protection in the event a flaw is discovered.
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If it’s wrapped it would likely have a different extension and signature, so if someone were to say, hack the cloud storage provider and grab all the KDBX files you might get missed.
In any case, the encryption algorithms we use today will likely be irrelevant and useless at some point in the near future. If you suspect your KDBX has been stolen, you should change all your passwords - even if they can’t crack it today, you don’t want to get an unpleasant surprise in a decade because you didn’t.
Although changing your passwords on interval is a good security practice anyway.
I also wouldn’t sync them with a cloud storage system either, since you never know.
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Thanks for all comments and opinions. I’ll give a chance to bitwarden.
Bitwarden because it is open source.
Both are open source
Been using Bitwarden and Firefox for years and years. Never had any integration issues.
Bitwarden is what I am using and I am having no problem with it so far.
I like Bitwarden because I can host my own server and control it all. Not sure if the other service does set-hosting. Maybe you can do the same with that?
I’ve been thinking of setting up my own server. Does hosting your own server feel secure? I feel capable of setting up my own server but I’m not sure if I trust myself to secure it appropriately.
Bitwarden isn’t a brand new solution. I don’t understand the comment in Firefox, though, Bitwarden has no issues with it that I’ve found.
I’ve used Bitwarden heavily in various browsers and Android. It’s really great and very effective at filling in passwords. Every now and then there’s a site that does something weird to make it autofill a bit wonky, but I can only recall seeing that happen with registration forms (sometimes the enter + confirm your password fields seem to confuse it). It’s near perfect at sign in forms that I’ve used.
I subscribe to both services, and each has its own unique advantages. Proton’s ability to generate disposable email addresses for questionable or bothersome websites is a standout feature that makes it worth the investment. Additionally, Bitwarden’s thorough third-party audit instills confidence, and its excellent autofill functionality coupled with the option to self-host data is highly appealing. Moreover, the ability to unlock your vault using a YubiKey adds an extra layer of security to Bitwarden. While Proton shows promise and has great potential.
Bitwarden+vaultwarden server = free enterprise access 👍
I prefer proton pass since I pay for proton and get access to everything so it’s convenient and it makes alias emails for me. It’s usually better not to keep all your eggs in one basket though.
I think it depends on the mobile device you use. I’ve read that proton is better on iPhone and bitwarden doesn’t integrate that well with it but it’s seamless on android. I also haven’t had any issues with bitwarden and Firefox and they’ve been my combo since I started using bitwarden a couple years ago. I haven’t given proton pass a full on try yet though and I pay both companies for their awesome services so I’m a bit of a shill for both. I don’t think you can make a bad choice here.
I use Bitwarden on iOS and have for years now. I have never run into any major issues. Occasionally I’ll have to jump out to the Bitwarden app to copy a password but that’s usually because the website I’m trying to log into has their form set up weird/wrong.
To be fair, I have to do this with Android sometimes as well
I was copying passwords and usernames all the time. This comment made me realize I didn’t configure it properly
