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    I alive in an affluent town. Only recently did teachers largely stop purchasing things for kids, with parents instead contributing the money for these items. We’re able to do it. But this is a fucking travesty.

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    My coworker bought a toner cartridge last week. All of my OT co-workers buy all of the supplies for their weekly activities. I buy lots of screws and small items to fix kids wheelchairs or broken classroom toys, tools for my teachers, etc. Last year i bought a $50 cot to serve as a portable changing table for field trips. New admin threw it away over the summer, along with thousands of dollars worth of equipment, because they didn’t know what it was and didn’t bother to ask.

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    My mother was a reading teacher. She bought all the books her kids read each year. She’d hand them out. The kids would keep them for a few weeks, and usually return them.

    Every year I would schlep several boxes of her books, between home and her classroom. 30 copies of this. 40 copies of that. Maybe a couple dozen titles. I personally would’ve appreciated it, if the school bought the books, so I didn’t have to carry them all twice a year.

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      Similar to my ex. After the first couple years making a classroom good for the kids, spending got less. Still well over $300, and spending jumped again with a new classroom. However after that initial spend, her biggest cost is stocking a classroom library. While the school mostly took care of the assigned books, she includes a lot of “book of your choice” in her lessons so needs a good assortment at each level

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    We donated a guitar to a high school music program. Honestly, I don’t know anyone who owns exactly one guitar. You either have none or several. Do you really need them all? How about taking your old student model and letting a beginner play on it? I get it. It’s that sentimental first instrument you ever picked up. But you’re not playing it anymore, and instruments like to be played. It deserves a happier life than sitting at the back of your closet.

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      You can’t blame people who pay for their own things for schools not having enough supplies. I have 14 guitars. I’ve owned about 20 and I’ve given away some to people who want to learn.

      Schools need better funding. I didn’t cause this problem.

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    I respect teachers, I help the pto, I donate time and money. And I vote for just about anything the school asks for. But I do get a little tired of the constant “outrage” the some teachers buy things for their job. Lot’s of people do that. I buy things for my job, and generally they cost more. Focusing on this is really a distraction from the real problems. Asking teachers to do so many things beyond just teaching. Like social worker, phycologist, nurse, cell phone police, fight referee… and all without the support they need from the administration, district, and state. Let’s focus the outrage on that. That will give thier unions the clout they need to negotiate better compensation.

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      As a teacher, fuck no. I am furious I have to spend my little cash on resources.

      My retirement plan is to off myself, let’s be outraged that we can’t even afford to live despite working our whole life.

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        Yes, your second paragraph is what I am talking about. Focus on the things that might be actionable. The reality is that teachers will probably always spend some of thier own money, just like other professionals. So raging against it is a distraction and it isn’t an actionable problem really. Overall compensation, proper spending on support, not asking teachers to wear 27 hats… those are actionable. Those are what we need to be raging about, just like your last sentence.

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      It’s not ok for a company or the government to make you buy things to support their business. If you are buying things for work with your own money and you arent self employed you are being taken advantage of. That’s why this is a big deal. They are taking advantage of the love these teachers have to save some money. Not fair.

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        I got news for you. Business and the gov are taking advantage of all of us in far worse ways. They manipulate the economy to keep overall compensation down among other things.
        And noone is making anyone spend thier own money in this situation. The fact is the powers that be are willing to pay for a specific level of quality in education. The teachers want to raise that level. So they are willing to use thier own money to do so. I work in software, and it is similar. The business is willing to pay for a certain level of quality. It is never as high as the user or the employees want. So we often spend our own time (money) to make it better quality. No business or government is going to pay for a quality level such that employees won’t want to raise it more. That is just capitalism.
        So the root of the problem is the disparity in desired quality for education.
        We have been griping about teachers spending thier own money for longer than I have been alive. Almost nothing has been done. But imagine the gov just paid them all back. A few hundred a year per teacher on average. But what is really needed is many thousands per teacher per year.

        The teachers unions around where I am are getting with the program. They told the district what they want, and they included that they want the state to pay for some of it. For too long unions have accepted agreements based on what the district can afford. But it really isn’t the teachers problem that the state underfunded the district. And it is working. Teachers have some leverage right now. It needs to be used before it goes away.

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      I get where you’re coming from but money is an immediate necessity so a teacher doesn’t have to use what little cash they have to enrich the educational experience of their students instead of having enough to eat for themselves. Low pay is what’s driving away so many good teachers from the profession in the first place.

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        I hear you, but being outraged by this has changed nothing in the last 20+ years. That is because it is just a distraction from the real issues that would lead to better pay.

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    I do not support tax paying dollars being spent on protein bars and rabbits. Why are those on the list?

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      Because having an animal pet in an elementary school classroom has been a thing since who knows how long ago?

      How many books and TV shows for children (and even adult shows involving children) are about something bad happening involving the class pet?

      There’s even a pet in Lisa’s class that showed up on The Simpsons sometimes until Lisa killed him: https://simpsonswiki.com/wiki/Nibbles

      Teaching responsibility by showing what you have to do in order to properly care for a pet sounds like a good way to teach it to me.

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      Protein bars are likely because some kids don’t get a breakfast at home. Not because the teacher just wants to give out snacks.

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      The rabbits could be useful in biology. Not only are they something often used for dissection, there are school-adjecent programs like the FFA where you might learn how to raise them. I raised rabbits as my FFA project, since participation in the FFA was required for the AP Biology class they stuck me in.

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          I think the larger point is that teachers are having to pay for their own supplies as well which are necessary like books, art supplies for younger populations, paper, writing utensils, etc. Its a well known fact that unfortunately teachers have to do this as some schools are not providing these materials/supplies.

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            Yes, which is eby its weird that 66% of the items listed in the title are not necessary school supplies

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          That’s something everyone can eat and doesn’t contain anything that kids especially are allergic to in large numbers, great idea.

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          Bread goes bad and needs to be replaced even if no one uses it. Protein bars will last the year if no one needs them

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          You didn’t read the headline correctly then. It says “With their own cash”, which means they’re buying this stuff for their classrooms with their own money out of their own pay. There’s no federal subsidies for these.

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            I did read it correctly. The implication is that its bad they buy it themselves, because the State should buy it for them.

            Paper, yes. The other two, no.