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              It is certainly not without historical precedent. Anarchists were quite heavily involved with the Russian revolution for example, although many historical-revisionist marxist-leninists would prefer to downplay that.

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                MLs don’t downplay the participation of Anarchists in the Russian Revolution, at least not from what I have seen.

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                  I appreciate that you don’t, I even have you tagged as “a polite marxist” so I must have had a positive interaction with you before, but many MLs I’ve debated before have downplayed anarchist contributions to the Russian revolution. I can understand how you might not encounter that very often since you’re not putting yourself out there as an anarchist.

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                  Point taken, but although it may not have ended well for the anarchists I believe their involvement in the Russian revolution was for the better since it could easily have gone in a much worse direction without them. Anarchists are always putting themselves in harm’s way to make this world a better place.

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              Ask the Anarchists on Hexbear why they’re fine with Marxists.

              In my experience, Hexbear is a much less toxic instance due to the anti-sectarian rules. Someone described it as “less like a Communist Party and more like the bar Communists hang out at after the meeting,” which is both cute and accurate. It’s a nice atmosphere if you aren’t a liberal.

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                It’s a nice atmosphere if you aren’t a liberal.

                Doesn’t sound like it would have a nice atmosphere for socialists or anarchists either

                Edit: Also that place allows coordinated attacks against non-tankies, and the most troubling users from blåhaj ran to that place, so I’m not super impressed.

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                  Doesn’t sound like it would have a nice atmosphere for socialists or anarchists either

                  Like I said, you can ask the anarchists and socialists there yourself. I’m a Marxist-Leninist, it’s a nice atmosphere, and I get along with the Anarchists there as well.

                  Edit: Also that place allows coordinated attacks against non-tankies, and the most troubling users from blåhaj ran to that place, so I’m not super impressed.

                  Mind explaining what you mean by “coordinated attacks?” And what do you mean by “troubling users from blåhaj?” People leaving one instance for Hexbear isn’t necessarily indicative of Hexbear being bad.

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                    Hexbear has been problematic from the start. I would love to find some sources, but that would require effort that I’m not willing to expend right now. Basically hexbear has done a lot of brigading and bullying in the past, with blessings from their moderators.

                    I do not consider tankies socialists, as socialism is inherently anti-authoritarian, and I honestly have little respect for socialists and anarchists that hang out with them. History has seen the regimes the tankies defend ruin attempts at socialism and anarchy countless times, especially considering that these regimes are often military takeovers of actual socialist revolutions.