• jimmydoreisalefty@lemmus.org
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    1 year ago

    Many different types of communism though, looking at countries with communist pasts.

    Unions were started by them, not by liberals and the like.

    Compared to today, unions are not that radical. More strikes are coming but both dems and reds stop them.

    Looking at Biden breaking the rail road strike.

    I think communists would be for gun rights and much more libertarian left polices, to a certain point.

    The first international efforts at organizing workers were established by Marx himself. Marx led the International Working Men’s Association (IWA), which was a coalition founded by union leaders in 1864, aimed at uniting various leftist groups, including socialists, communists, and anarchists, to join in the common goal of defeating capitalism.

    In 1872, the IWA focused its efforts on the United States, moving its headquarters to New York City. After it disbanded in 1876, the Workingmen’s Party of the United States (WPUS) was founded in its place. The WPUS organized railroad workers in the Great Railroad Strike of 1877, which started in West Virginia and spread across several states, leading to deadly riots. Over one hundred people were killed as a result, and in Philadelphia, rioters burned down 39 buildings and dozens of trains, as well as over 1,200 freight cars.

    Unionization continued along Marxist lines, as did the violence. In 1886, after a confrontation between striking employees, strikebreakers, and police, a group of labor radicals (including anarchists and communists) held a rally in Chicago, now referred to as the Haymarket Riot. When one of the speakers at the rally shouted “Exterminate the capitalists!” police intervened, and things became violent. One rioter threw a stick of dynamite at police and shooting broke out; seven police officers and at least one civilian died.

    As Weingarten noted in a recent interview, “80% of parents, most parents, want teachers to teach honest history.” That’s exactly what should be taught—honest history. Kids should know about the historical accomplishments of organized labor, and how employees came together to improve their workplaces. They should also know that unionization in America was driven by revolutionary Marxist organizations, and that unions often instigated and participated in rioting and violence.

    https://americansforfairtreatment.org/2022/03/28/the-real-history-of-unions-violent-communist-agitation/

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      1 year ago

      Unions may have started from the socialist movement, but insisting they’re communist in nature is just denying reality. Social liberalism also split from democratic socialism, and is an explicitly capitalist ideology. Genetic arguments are almost always shit, and I challenge you to walk up to the average union worker and ask them if they’re a communist.

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        1 year ago

        Communist movement, I do not think it was a socialist movement.

        I think most or all of them were not communist, just the leadership or the organizer that gets them together.

        Communists were a part of union culture since the bigging, the Red Scare removed most of them, then the unions became less effective.

        This is to the best of my knowledge.

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          Unions became less effective when union rights were attacked by Republicans, manufacturing declined in relative employment, and workers were more exposed to international competition.