Beth Bourne made a huge scene that was caught on video when she accosted several drag artists at a resort in Hawaii. One of the drag queens spoke to The Advocate about what happened.
Well, I am trans, active in the community and I am aware of the concept you are talking about. But I also know it’s incel / 4chan language, specifically with being a “passoid” or “non-passoid hon”, as a deviation from referring to women as “femoids”. So right off the bat, it’s not something I take too seriously purely because I don’t care too much what they say on the worst part of the net.
But more to the point, I go to a lot of meet up events with trans folk and the conversation has been brought up a few times. I’ve yet to meet someone who is actually upset by it. Few people aware of it, as you said its a deep lore type thing, but even of those that know most don’t seem to care.
I see it kind of like the whole “Queer vs LGBTQIA2S+” debate, where to my mind Queer is more ecompassing, easier to say and commonly considered a reclaimed word for the queer community. But, there are absolutely some people have had “Queer” used derisively against them and do not feel comfortable using it as a label. I entirely respect and support that, and if I know that a person feels that way, I will go out of my way NOT to use the word Queer around them. So, if I upset you or the person I was originally replying to with my word choice, I sincerely apologize.
Apologies, I wasn’t sure where it was coming from and it’s one of those things that strikes me as something people outside the 2SLGBTQIA+ say without realizing that it’s even a thing. I do know folk who still have a pretty visceral reaction to it… I think it depends on what part of the community you have a history on interfacing with as some folk found their initial community in places which were very solidly terrible and unlike “queer” there’s never really been a solid attempt to reclaim “hon”.
Well, I am trans, active in the community and I am aware of the concept you are talking about. But I also know it’s incel / 4chan language, specifically with being a “passoid” or “non-passoid hon”, as a deviation from referring to women as “femoids”. So right off the bat, it’s not something I take too seriously purely because I don’t care too much what they say on the worst part of the net.
But more to the point, I go to a lot of meet up events with trans folk and the conversation has been brought up a few times. I’ve yet to meet someone who is actually upset by it. Few people aware of it, as you said its a deep lore type thing, but even of those that know most don’t seem to care.
I see it kind of like the whole “Queer vs LGBTQIA2S+” debate, where to my mind Queer is more ecompassing, easier to say and commonly considered a reclaimed word for the queer community. But, there are absolutely some people have had “Queer” used derisively against them and do not feel comfortable using it as a label. I entirely respect and support that, and if I know that a person feels that way, I will go out of my way NOT to use the word Queer around them. So, if I upset you or the person I was originally replying to with my word choice, I sincerely apologize.
Apologies, I wasn’t sure where it was coming from and it’s one of those things that strikes me as something people outside the 2SLGBTQIA+ say without realizing that it’s even a thing. I do know folk who still have a pretty visceral reaction to it… I think it depends on what part of the community you have a history on interfacing with as some folk found their initial community in places which were very solidly terrible and unlike “queer” there’s never really been a solid attempt to reclaim “hon”.