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NightOwl@lemmy.ca to World News@lemmy.ml · 3 days ago

Defense Stocks Fall as Trump Pushes Ukraine Peace Deal

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NightOwl@lemmy.ca to World News@lemmy.ml · 3 days ago
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  • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
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  • manuallybreathing@lemmy.ml
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    Ratheon is only up %45 since this time last year, do you think theyll be okay? Do they need to find more people to kill?

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      Don’t worry, the US is allegedly already bombing Syria.

  • limer@lemmy.ml
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    I think this is another scheme to manipulate the stocks, some people will buy low and know when to sell, just before some staged drama by the administration to raise the prices suddenly

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      you can be more certain of this if the negotiations fall apart again by another poison pill from trump.

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    They are no longer defense stocks, they are war stocks. Department of War.

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      They were always for imperialist ambitions and genocide, from the outset.

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    Everyone has almost figured out what the Ukraine thing was all about all along.

    • tomiant@piefed.socialBanned from community
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      And what is that.

      • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
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        turns out some people are a bit slow

    • Asetru@feddit.org
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      I haven’t. Please explain.

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        Looking at the stock prices of US weapon manufacturers right after the Ukraine war started will answer all questions.

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          Correlation does not imply causation.

          • DaMummy@lemmy.world
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            There’s an old saying in Texas, I know it’s in Texas, probably in Tennessee, that says “fool me once, shame on…shame on you? You fool me, you can’t get fooled again!”

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              Wow. Yeah.

              That explains nothing.

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                That’s because you need evidence in the form of a mushroom cloud.

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            No, but it gives a good place to start. The west has absolutely hollowed out and looted Ukraine, and used it as a battering ram to damage Russia as much as they could. The US blew up Nordstream specifically to try to decouple western Europe from cheap Russian gas. The US Empire, post-2014 Euromaidan coup, uses Ukraine similarly to how they use Israel, to secure its interests in the region.

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              … and I’m sure you have sources for those accusations, right?

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                Lmao your ass was not expecting sources

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                Yes, which part are you skeptical of? I think these are pretty clear at this point, though. Most of this is from comrade @yogthos@lemmy.ml


                • Reuters, 2014: Leaked audio reveals embarrassing U.S. exchange on Ukraine, EU https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSBREA151VA/
                • Leaked recording between Nuland and Pyatt: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoW75J5bnnE | transcript
                • Counterpunch, 2014: US Imperialism and the Ukraine Coup https://www.counterpunch.org/2014/03/10/us-imperialism-and-the-ukraine-coup/
                • Consortium News, 2015: The Mess That Nuland Made https://consortiumnews.com/2022/02/26/robert-parry-the-mess-that-nuland-made/
                • Monthly Review Online, 2021: The Maidan massacre in Ukraine: revelations from trials and investigations https://mronline.org/2021/12/11/the-maidan-massacre-in-ukraine/
                • Maidan coup thread https://archive.ph/BAxYc
                • Coup details https://consortiumnews.com/2022/12/29/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-in-kiev/
                • Don’t Get it Wrong: Ukraine and “Israel” are Both Tools of US-EU Imperialism
                • An article from August 2021 advocating inflicting a military defeat on Russia in Ukraine to subjugate it and draw it away from China https://nationalinterest.org/feature/strategy-avoiding-two-front-war-192137
                • An important piece that reveals Washington, via CIA paramilitaries, has been fighting a proxy war against Russia in the Donbas since, it’s implied, 2014. https://news.yahoo.com/exclusive-secret-cia-training-program-in-ukraine-helped-kyiv-prepare-for-russian-invasion-090052743.html
                • NYT coup coverage with CIA involvement https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/25/world/europe/cia-ukraine-intelligence-russia-war.html
                • Nordstream US involvement evidence https://thegrayzone.com/2023/06/27/evidence-nord-stream-underwater-expedition/
                • The US harvesting Ukraine for minerals https://apnews.com/article/ukraine-us-rare-earth-minerals-deal-8566241ea0e121a30437d845357055d8
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    If this appeasement offer to russia actually comes to fruition, then serious armament initiatives in Europe will only gain steam.

    This so called peace agreement is nothing but an invitation for a much larger war.

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      They should gain steam.

      My worries is EU will literally go “oh thank god crisis over, let’s start pumping that Russian gas again and drop all investments into armaments, we won’t be needing those anymore!”

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        No idea why were both getting downvoted. Guess the tankies are out in full force…

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          I don’t see why you’re surprised that there are Marxists on a Lemmy.ml comm.

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            • davel [he/him]@lemmy.ml
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              hipster fascists

              You must have us confused with Gavin McInnes.

              Tankies have zero clue about actual Marxism.

              Those clueless tankie dumdums and their Marxist wiki containing thousands entries and hundreds of books & articles…

              • https://en.prolewiki.org/wiki/ProleWiki
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              Right, which is why we keep posting theory at you which you refuse to read and keep correctly predicting the outcome of wars

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              • davel [he/him]@lemmy.ml
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                Please retire ableist insults.

                The term was closely tied with the American eugenics movement.

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              “Tankie” is just a pejorative for Marxists and anti-imperialists. The “tankie” is a strawman with ready-made characteristics that gets slapped on any Marxist or anti-imperialist that defends socialist countries.

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              and other ridiculous lies you can tell yourself

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                Oh how I wish piefed.world accounts could see grad comments…

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          tankies>

          I said it again, mom

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