“Even though we’re pushing through pricing, the consumer is tolerating it well,” he said in October analyst call.

normal way to talk about ‘fellow’ human beings

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    There’s a burger place near me which makes a great burger - good quality ingredients, interesting toppings, great fries and they’re cheaper than McDonalds. Given McDonald’s prices on ingredients will be substantially cheaper, and their volume higher, this is just pure greed.

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      Yeah there is a little drive through burger stand 2 blocks away from me. Amazing burger and fries combo for $11. The only downside is their service is super slow, but that’s a crapshoot at nearly every fast food chain at this point

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        Yeah there is a great place near me that does a really, really good double with pimento, chili, fresh onion and jalapeno for around that too. 2 people getting food, a loaded fry (that’s actually loaded), and tip is somewhere around $30. I don’t see why I would eat at any fast food chain.

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      My local burger places are just like that. Absolutely bonkers what people with a routine will tolerate if the change is slow.

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        Some people are open to trying new things, they want the excitement of trying out a new restaurant or take out, they want to try types of food they’ve never eaten before.

        Then there are the other type. They behave in the same way as children do, they want what they like, and will not take a risk on something new, even on something as pedestrian as a burger.

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          I’ve worked with a 50 year old man that gets upset if there isn’t a nearby Chick-fil-A. He eats the same thing every day. By his other behaviors I assume it’s undiagnosed OCD or something so we don’t give him shit about it.

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            My former coworker got the exact same thing from chipotle every single day. Nothing wrong with him, just really liked his routine. Some people are like that.

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          This seems pretty black and white. Ironically.

          I love trying new food. But sometimes I just want to order something where I know what I am going to get.

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    I worked for McDs in high school, around 2008. Big Mac meal used to be $6.08 with tax, $1 menu used to be $1.06 with tax. I went the other day and was shocked to see how much everything costs now plus I have to order via a screen (which I find bizarre, but maybe I’m just old now).

    I also feel like working there used to be kind of fun. I’d take the order from the drive thru/take the money, kitchen would secretly prioritize drive thru orders (everything is timed), and window person would get the order together. Now it seems like they take 1 or 2 drive thru orders at a time and make the line wait until those are done.

    Seems like fewer people working & prices went up - and I’m sure those poor folks working are making minimum wage. It’s just sad all around.

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      The cool part is I started working there just after you! I started around 2013 and worked there until about 2016 and it was STILL about maybe $7 or $8 for a meal, and the dollar menu was still $1.06

      This shit happened during covid and they’re literally only doing it because they can. There have been reports that the current inflation isn’t driven by the state of the economy at all, but just corporate greed.

      Don’t waste your time and money guys, you can get food cheaper at the mom and pop restaurants now, and that food is usually at least half decent. When it’s the same price to eat at McDonald’s or a “healthier” place like tropical smoothie or Chipotle, why the fuck would I want to pay for ultra processed sludge

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    I can’t believe that the US Government believes that a little more than two McDonald’s hash browns are worth one hour’s work.

    Fuck that. That isn’t dignity.

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      Idk about boycotting but I’ll tell you that I haven’t had McDonald’s since I went and it was like $20+ for two people for some breakfast sandwiches (meals). I’d rather buy the frozen ones or just have none. Like everyone else, we don’t have a ton of extra money and if we do go out, we want our value for our time.

      I got used to thinking about money being time. If you make 15/hr then one meal is roughly one hour. Don’t think of your dollar, think of how many hours something costs.

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    “Some customers are fed up and pushing back”

    But continuing to buy things from them, yeah? Companies are not going to change until people stop buying from them.

    Nobody needs McDonald’s. I’m not even sure most people actually want McDonald’s. Just stop going, seriously.

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      I hate McDonald’s. I eat McDonald’s. If I get into some tiny town or get off work in a tiny town at 11pm or later it’s often the only place open.

      What I don’t understand is people who eat there by choice. I sometimes work with a guy who will go to McDonald’s by choice, even with better/cheaper options, three times a day.

      I wonder how much of McDonald’s average franchise net income is from road warriors.

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        God damn. What fucked up nightmare is this if your ONLY choice is this toxic shitty unhealthy food?

        You poor fucking bastard. Your health will pay for that in time.

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          You can get $1 breakfast sandwiches and $2 mcchicken with free fries in the app. I definitely use it when I want the cheapest lunch or breakfast option

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      What’s wrong with Mormons? In South Park, they were the only religion whose devout followers have been treated kindly.

      Though I haven’t seen The Book of Mormon…

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        You mean besides being an uber controlling cult that embezzles millions if not billions of dollars?

        Also Book of Mormon is excellent, highly encourage you to go see it! There’s not a bad seat in the house for Broadway.

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        The race bigotry, the anything that isn’t hereto hate, the normalizing of totally cutting people off if they deviate from the cult?

        But if you’re basing your views on south park I’ve got bad news for you.

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          But if you’re basing your views on south park I’ve got bad news for you.

          I can’t keep up with all the spins on Christianity that the US comes up with. And the Mormonism episode didn’t drive me to do external research the way the Scientology episode did! Haha

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    Fun fact: In Germany, the big US fast food companies are in a constant price war. They hand out vouchers at least once a week and offer big discounts online and in their apps. Because if they didn’t their restaurants would be utterly empty. For the price of €12 for a Big Mac menu, I can go straight to a pretty good restaurant and have a Schnitzel with French Fries, a salad and a beer.

    Especially Burger King and McDonalds are doing that all day. Subway and KFC a lot less.

    Then there are Turkish and German fast food restaurants. They often have prices so low they simply don’t have to lower then to beat the US chains. And to be honest, before I buy a burger for €5 I buy a Kebab or Shawarma which beat every burger in taste and amount of food. German fast food restaurants often sell grilled chicken, all sorts of fish, fried sausages and so on. And yes, we consider Pizza German Food nowadays. And the Italians agree, especially when talking about Pine-Apple Pizza or Pizza with pulled pork. They are usually cheaper than anyone else and the food is huge and easy to eat fast. German Fast Food makes all others look like slow food, you can easily stuff yourself in two minutes.

    Some prices:

    -The Croatian canteen in our town hall serves good Balkan cuisine from €5. A glass of tap water for €0.50. And it is a nice place, not looking like a canteen at all. Tips are included in these prices.

    -I have a ton of vouchers of 50% voucher for Chicken McNuggets, Big Macs and Salads. I don’t visit McDonalds too often as they require to order from a needless complicated touch screen but when I do I sometimes take a voucher “Two Big Macs for €5”.

    -a company I work for sometimes orders the “business menu” from Burger King which is something like “20 burgers of your choice and 2kg of fries” for €70. As the boss often invites his worker I am just happy with whatever I get.

    -the local furniture store offers 50% vouchers for a a complete fish dish on Friday for €5 in his nice restaurant.

    -they also offer Chinese and German Food often at 50% vouchers which equals to €4-€5 for a complete meal. And every day they have some cheap East European soup dishes like Borscht, Flaczki, Gulasch and so on for €2-3 and it is always a HUGE amount of food.

    Seriously, if you open your eyes you would be surprised how many really cheap and great restaurants are around.

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      And to be honest, before I buy a burger for €5 I buy a Kebab or Shawarma which beat every burger in taste and amount of food

      Man, I miss doner kababs so much. I haven’t quite found anything similar back stateside.

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    Inflation and wage theft are absolutely out of control in this country. I’m a barista. My store makes $1600 in a eight-hour day. Mine and all of my coworker’s wage in there probably adds up to about $50/hour on average. So the profit margin is ridiculous. And these businesses have the gall to think they can make MORE MONEY. No, fuck you. At some point the human beings doing the hard work need to get a bigger cut.

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      make sure you count utilities and rent for the building and supplies etc, its still ridiculous but slightly less so

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        Not to mention one of those la marcozzo espresso machines cost like 40k

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      Not many places open when 2nd shift closes.

      And yes, there’s food at home or in the lunchbox, but sometimes home is 40 minutes away and you already ate lunch 5 hours prior.

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        When I had that commute I would buy boxes of clifbars and power bars that permanently populated my glovebox. Trail mix in Adams peanut butter jars. Flavored oatmeal with raisins in old jam jars, just grab a cup of boiling water on your way out and pour it in. See also, instant mash potatoes, stuffing, ramen (adding boiling water to ramen and just waiting for it to be ready is the only way I like it now). That was the best idea I ever had before a multi day road trip, please use it.

        If anyone has ideas to add to that, I’m all ears. Or any other food-from-home non-shopping ideas (like eating potato salad with Tims salt and vinegar chips, bombdotcom)

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          I’m not referring to my current situation. I’m adding context to their question.

          I’m fully aware that someone can put stuff like that in their car.

          However, when I was working in a factory til 11 pm, I don’t want cliff bars and peanut butter.

          I understand what you’re saying. Not everyone has those options, whether you want to believe it or not.

          People are a kaleidoscope. There is no single way to live or fix your problems. This is information I hope you too can use.

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        This is my life. Home is 45 minutes away. I pull into McDonald’s praying, “Please let it be fresh, oh lord. Please. I haven’t eaten since 8:00 AM, it’s 10:30 PM now. I don’t want to gag it down. Please Buddha, Krishna, Allah, Jesus of Nazareth! Please!”

        I open the wrapper, it’s dry and cold, or it’s fresh but the dude cooking it decided I wanted a whole brick of salt on it, or they decided, “Hey, these onions are better than those! Fuck consistency! They want it like I want it! With different onions and 40 pickles!”

        I’m about to try to find tv dinners that taste good or something. I legit starve sometimes because I literally can’t eat it.

        It’s the only restaurant that’s open on my way home.

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          knowing you live somewhere with limited options, rather than yoke your health and well being to a single fast food restaurant, consider that this is the time to learn how to cook, store, and prepare your own food. Even a humble peanut butter and jelly sandwich can come in clutch in this situation, and all you have to do is make it ahead of time. You eat 2-3 meals a day every day. It’s okay to eat simple things, not every meal has to be special.

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            Yeah but when you are working 12 hour days, not counting the commute, sometimes you don’t want to be constructive at home. You want to enjoy your freedom.

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              when you are working 12 hour days

              You want to enjoy your freedom.

              Man, there’s no freedom in working 12 hour days. Hats off to you I guess but that’s not any kind of freedom at all.

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                I was referring to the time I wasn’t clocked in.

                I’m glad you have other options. Not everyone does. My friend who currently works at Ford does so because he took custody of his nephew when his worthless brother went to jail.

                He has no choice but to work and provide.

                People are a kaleidoscope. There are a multitude of reasons one would take a job, and to so whimsically brush that notion aside is intellectually irresponsible

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                  People are a kaleidoscope.

                  Yea! This discussion always dives into “oh well you can live off oats and beans!” There’s so many assumptions about space to cook, storage options, time… I quit my full time and my food budget has gone down quite a bit, because I have time to make these things. If you work multiple jobs and live in a tiny space, rice and beans aren’t always that practical.

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          :(

          Ever asked for it fresh / cooked to order? Easier in the restaurant, but in the drive through you can mention you don’t mind parking and waiting. If unsuccessful, you can politely get more elaborate with the request: “I know I’ll have to park since dropping the fries and cooking the burger to order will take some time, but I don’t mind at all. Just as long as it’s fresh, please!”

          Fries w/o salt would let you control that variable on your own as well.

          Your mileage will certainly vary but cold McD is really barely worth paying for. Scalding hot McD is harder to knock: e.g. they bully suppliers into giving them quality long Russets for their fries.

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          I see what you’re trying to do.

          Attempt this with physically demanding labor.

          Splitting hairs doesn’t Invalide my original point. Being contrarian by default doesn’t make you clever.